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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:01 pm 
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Anyone ever heard of or used this product? Seems like a great idea, but greatly overpriced.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:01 pm 
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I use Purytec system, one cartridge lasts about 3 months. It fits in-line just before the pump, its a German product, and if available in the US it can't cost more than a few dollars.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:25 pm 
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All of your Four Winns boats have a tank filter installed in line of the vent. You might have to do a little to find it.. but it is there. They make replacement cartridges for it if you start getting that not so fresh smell everytime someone uses the head.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:38 pm 
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The Kid wrote:
All of your Four Winns boats have a tank filter installed in line of the vent. You might have to do a little to find it.. but it is there. They make replacement cartridges for it if you start getting that not so fresh smell everytime someone uses the head.



It's not a replacement "cartridge" you have to replace the whole unit (unless you cut it apart, replace the filter material, the activated charcoal and glue it all back together again).

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:51 pm 
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The Kid wrote:
All of your Four Winns boats have a tank filter installed in line of the vent. You might have to do a little to find it.. but it is there. They make replacement cartridges for it if you start getting that not so fresh smell everytime someone uses the head.


The device I posted is an inline tank treatment product, not a filter for the vent. If the tank is treated properly, the need to filter the vent is greatly reduced.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:17 pm 
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Sounds like a good idea, but I think I will stick with the concentrate, I can put more or less if I like.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:09 am 
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hahaha Sorry didn't read the article very well...... very good idea but pricy for sure!!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:57 am 
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The Kid wrote:
hahaha Sorry didn't read the article very well...... very good idea but pricy for sure!!


Back to "Boat Sales/Service 101" for one more semester I would say.......
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:05 pm 
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ChicagoTC wrote:
If the tank is treated properly, the need to filter the vent is greatly reduced.

This is not entirely correct. Most safe tank treatment systems require air into the tank to help the microbes do their job of breaking down the waste solids.

The product listed is for toilets that use raw water (sea water). Most boats with vacu-flush type systems do not use raw water, they use fresh water from the tank. Using fresh water and vacu-flush toilets eliminates most of the stink associated with boat toilets. Raw water toilets almost always end up smelling nasty. Their website doesn't list what chemicals are used in their "bullets". Some stuff is a lot nastier than the waste (like formaldehyde). I prefer using a treatment that doesn't add more pollution to the pumped out waste. It's just better for the environment.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:13 pm 
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Bill,

I agree with that.. I use Campochem Formaldahyde free in mine, seems to work.. But nobody has ever ordered up a #2 combo in mine, either.... :)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:27 am 
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wkearney99 wrote:
ChicagoTC wrote:
If the tank is treated properly, the need to filter the vent is greatly reduced.

This is not entirely correct. Most safe tank treatment systems require air into the tank to help the microbes do their job of breaking down the waste solids.

The product listed is for toilets that use raw water (sea water). Most boats with vacu-flush type systems do not use raw water, they use fresh water from the tank. Using fresh water and vacu-flush toilets eliminates most of the stink associated with boat toilets. Raw water toilets almost always end up smelling nasty. Their website doesn't list what chemicals are used in their "bullets". Some stuff is a lot nastier than the waste (like formaldehyde). I prefer using a treatment that doesn't add more pollution to the pumped out waste. It's just better for the environment.



Agreed, I said there isn't as much need to filter the vent., not that the vent isn't needed. I have been using odorlos with great success over the past two seasons.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:29 am 
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Brett248Vista wrote:
Bill,

I agree with that.. I use Campochem Formaldahyde free in mine, seems to work.. But nobody has ever ordered up a #2 combo in mine, either.... :)


Ha, I wish I could say the same but there are those occassional Sunday mornings after a long night, where the walk to the marina bathrooms isn't going to happen.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:14 am 
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With the microbial-based tank treatments you actually SHOULD use the toilet for #2. It's the solids that the microbes depend upon in order to do their work. Just #1 isn't enough. That and while I do have "a talk" with guests about proper use of the head, I'm not prepared to be the potty police regarding #2 or not. It's a toilet, with a waste system designed to handle both, and I get it pumped out regularly enough to make it a non-issue. Odorlos has been the treatment I've used and it's working well thus far.

I'm just glad ours is a fresh-water based system. Raw water systems are just plain nasty when using salt water. If it wasn't fresh water-based then I'd certainly consider inline treatment schemes. Just as long as I knew what chemicals they were using.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:15 am 
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ChicagoTC wrote:
Ha, I wish I could say the same but there are those occassional Sunday mornings after a long night, where the walk to the marina bathrooms isn't going to happen.


+1, errrr or would that be +2? :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:31 am 
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wkearney99 wrote:
ChicagoTC wrote:
Ha, I wish I could say the same but there are those occassional Sunday mornings after a long night, where the walk to the marina bathrooms isn't going to happen.


+1, errrr or would that be +2? :wink:


:D well played.

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