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mcraigchr · **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:29 am

Gents,

I spent a great deal of time last night investigating the plumbing mysteries in my "new" (2003) 248. Here's what I found:

I posted yesterday that I was confused as to why I have 2 "WATER" steel caps on the starboard rear of the boat rather than just one. According to the manual, I should have 2 "WASTE" caps. One gray water and one black water. After pulling the system apart, here's what the previous owner(s) have done:

The sink in the galley and the head no longer dump into the sump. They are plumbed/routed to discharge directly out of the hull. The shower still dumps into the sump which is also routed to dump directly overboard. The A/C condensate line has it's own hose now that dumps directly into the bilge, not the sump. This is all good and bad, I think. Good in that I don't have to worry about the sump pump giving out on me and ruining my weekend, since we don't use the shower. Bad in that I think this setup might be illegal on some lakes.

It appears to me that the gray water tank is *completely* bypassed and unused. It has 1/2 tank full of anti-freeze that I will have to pump out, I guess. I am also guessing that the previous owner(s) used this as an additional fresh water tank since the steel cap says "WATER".

I have not been running the A/C the last few days trying to figure out where an accumulation of bilge water is coming from. I am still getting water from somewhere, but still looking.

Any ideas/comments?

Craig C.

captwalt · **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:25 am

The water you discovered and in the bilge I am assume is in the area where the sump pump is. I had this issue too. You can see the full history in this thread---> viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2897&st=0&sk=t&sd=a That water apparently shows up for various reasons on all of the cruisers. My guess it can come from various places. The biggest issue I see is that it has no where to drain. What I did was use a wet vac and get it all out in that matter. Then I cleaned up the mess that was left over with clorox clean up.

captwalt · **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:34 am

Are you sure your second water tank is not being used by your head to pull water when in the wet position?

mcraigchr · **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:50 am

captwalt wrote:

Are you sure your second water tank is not being used by your head to pull water when in the wet position?

I wish I could tell you ... I can't get the toilet to prime.

Curious ... there is a through hull metal pipe in the bilge on the port side near the bilge pump, just in front of the engine. Has a wire of some kind coming out of it and appears to have a green waxy substance inside. Is this a seacock? If so ... is it the toilet seacock? If not ... what in the hell is it? Makes me nervous to see a pipe going through the hull ...

captwalt · **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:01 am

I believe that is your overboard discharge sea cock you are talking about. There are 2 seacocks I know of in there, one is the overboard discharge and the other is to bring up water to the A/C unit. Does it have a white hose connected to it?

What is the color of the wire? Green?

mcraigchr · **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:06 am

captwalt wrote:

I believe that is your overboard discharge sea cock you are talking about. There are 2 seacocks I know of in there, one is the overboard discharge and the other is to bring up water to the A/C unit. Does it have a white hose connected to it?

What is the color of the wire? Green?

There is no hose connected. It's just a two inch high fitting with a black wire coming out of it. I know where the A/C seacock is ... rear bilge, port side.

This piece I'm talking about is port side, between the engine and the fuel tank, about 12"-18" from the bilge pump (underneath the engine water pump).

Should I be nervous that there is no hose plugged into it?

Craig C.

mcraigchr · **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:07 am

mcraigchr wrote:

captwalt wrote:

I believe that is your overboard discharge sea cock you are talking about. There are 2 seacocks I know of in there, one is the overboard discharge and the other is to bring up water to the A/C unit. Does it have a white hose connected to it?

What is the color of the wire? Green?

There is no hose connected. It's just a two inch high fitting with a black wire coming out of it. I know where the A/C seacock is ... rear bilge, port side.

This piece I'm talking about is port side, between the engine and the fuel tank, about 12"-18" from the bilge pump (underneath the engine water pump).

Should I be nervous that there is no hose plugged into it?

Craig C.

Oh ... can't tell the wire color ... looks black and goes somewhere underneath the engine towards starboard. I haven't traced it yet.

captwalt · **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:55 am

mcraigchr wrote:

captwalt wrote:

I believe that is your overboard discharge sea cock you are talking about. There are 2 seacocks I know of in there, one is the overboard discharge and the other is to bring up water to the A/C unit. Does it have a white hose connected to it?

What is the color of the wire? Green?

There is no hose connected. It's just a two inch high fitting with a black wire coming out of it. I know where the A/C seacock is ... rear bilge, port side.

This piece I'm talking about is port side, between the engine and the fuel tank, about 12"-18" from the bilge pump (underneath the engine water pump).

Should I be nervous that there is no hose plugged into it?

Craig C.

The overboard discharge is right next to the A/C sea cock on mine. Sounds to me like it is the depth sounder transducer your talking about.

mcraigchr · **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:08 am

captwalt wrote:

mcraigchr wrote:

captwalt wrote:

I believe that is your overboard discharge sea cock you are talking about. There are 2 seacocks I know of in there, one is the overboard discharge and the other is to bring up water to the A/C unit. Does it have a white hose connected to it?

What is the color of the wire? Green?

There is no hose connected. It's just a two inch high fitting with a black wire coming out of it. I know where the A/C seacock is ... rear bilge, port side.

This piece I'm talking about is port side, between the engine and the fuel tank, about 12"-18" from the bilge pump (underneath the engine water pump).

Should I be nervous that there is no hose plugged into it?

Craig C.

Could be. That's a relief. I'll take a picture tonight and post it.

Your expertise and input are appreciated.

Craig C.

The overboard discharge is right next to the A/C sea cock on mine. Sounds to me like it is the depth sounder transducer your talking about.

bndfishing · **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:42 pm

Take some pictures so we can see what you are talking about. If it is a sea cock the wire is a bonding wire, if there is no hose connected to it they have done some funky re-plumbing. All the more reason to get a full and complete survey before buying any cruiser.

mcraigchr · **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:50 am

bndfishing wrote:

Take some pictures so we can see what you are talking about. If it is a sea cock the wire is a bonding wire, if there is no hose connected to it they have done some funky re-plumbing. All the more reason to get a full and complete survey before buying any cruiser.

I meant to do that last night. I'll get one tonight and post it.

Craig C.

captwalt · **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:14 am

Let me save u the hassle...

Is this what you were talking about??

mcraigchr · **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:17 am

captwalt wrote:

Let me save u the hassle...

Is this what you were talking about??

That's it. Transducer?

Craig C.

captwalt · **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:29 am

mcraigchr · **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:31 am

captwalt wrote:

yup

Many thanks.

Craig C.

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