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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:22 pm 
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Finally fell victim to crappy gas. Sucks. Put $50 in of watered down ghetto gas station gas. I should have known better not to stop there. Idle is everywhere. Won't always get on plane. Exhaust smells like when you start a lawn mower up for the first time in 5 years. I'm changing out the fuel filter tomorrow but I'm sure I'll be doing it again until I burn this shit out.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:29 pm 
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That sucks ric!!!!!!!!!!!! You very well could be fighting that for the rest of the season.
While I'm on a rant thread, let me add one.
Went out today, they finally got our regular ramp and beach opened last Friday from the diesel spill they had back in March. Went early, got a table and a cabana on the beach, anchored and got all set up. Went for a couple of cruises around then went to the table to grill some brats and such. Went back out to the boat after lunch and some imported persons had evidently been having a mud fight, one group on each side of our boat. Full of mud and sh!t. Asked around and was told that they had just left. Sure would have liked to have caught them in the act, but...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:35 pm 
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Yep. There's a solid 25-30 gallons of gas in the tank right now. Guess I'll just do laps around the lake every day until it's gone at fast idle. I always read about it happening to people on here. Words of wisdom: never buy gas at shady gas stations in the ghetto.

Sucks about the boat, I'd have made them clean it. i don't carry on my boat for nothing :)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:29 am 
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Do you think it might be worth it to just have the tank pumped out?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:18 am 
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jayjay4735 wrote:
Do you think it might be worth it to just have the tank pumped out?


Na. It can't damage anything other than my pride. If anything the water in the gas will steam clean the pistons/valves.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:41 am 
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Can you use a fuel additive to help out?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:15 pm 
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EvilZ wrote:
Can you use a fuel additive to help out?


You can't turn water into wine. If I was a serious river/big lake/ocean boater I'd pump it out no questions asked but on my local pond I can just fast idle everywhere without a big inconvenience until it's all gone and I can replace it with the good stuff. I'd rather not dilute it by adding more gas either.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:48 pm 
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Maybe the exhaust will help keep the mosquitos at bay??????????????

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:54 pm 
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After you get it all burned out, might be worth adding some Seafoam to the first tank of new gas just to clean things out.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:30 pm 
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From what I understand the water in the fuel can cause valves and pistons to overheat and become distorted. Your best choice is to pump out, add fresh with an additive and swap filters.

If you have efi then more ptobs are possible with pump and injectors. If damage occurs this is a covered loss your insurance can sudrogate against the station. Here in TX the railroad commission will take a grab and enforce penalties....likely faulty tanks at the Sahara Station.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:21 am 
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I had a similar experience, I didn't take a chance at messing anything I emptied out the tank added rec fuel at almost 4 bucks a gallon added some stabil and haven't had a problem with bad gas since.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:46 pm 
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Ric, I'm just curious why you'd buy from a ghetto station. You are pretty well educated on this stuff. What gives? :shock:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:46 pm 
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TX H210SS wrote:
From what I understand the water in the fuel can cause valves and pistons to overheat and become distorted. Your best choice is to pump out, add fresh with an additive and swap filters.

If you have efi then more ptobs are possible with pump and injectors. If damage occurs this is a covered loss your insurance can sudrogate against the station. Here in TX the railroad commission will take a grab and enforce penalties....likely faulty tanks at the Sahara Station.


Agreed. I suck water into the intake to clean the valves, but water in the injectors, pump, etc is just bad juju.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:02 pm 
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The boat is carb with mechanical fuel pump (merc 5.0 220hp). Shouldn't harm it. If it was a volvo with the electric fuel pump it would most likely ruin it. Tomorrow my plan is to change filter and burn it out doing parade laps.

Why did I get gas from a ghetto gas station? We were running late to a thing called the Lake Conway Wipeout. It was the only station off the highway between there and the ramp. Right in the middle of the hood.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:50 pm 
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All the cars are on the wrong side of the road?! :P

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