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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:36 pm 
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This could be it. HR got out of jail and was spotted towing the FH with FH, Jr towards San Fran Bay!! Latest reports on SA:

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So it would seem he has in fact moved the FH since no one has spotted it now

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:24 am 
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This is a real nail bighter...finger I mean. Seems threatening to shoot other boaters who come alongside may not be a good idea, since sinking is a concern.

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cant wait til morning!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:25 am 
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It takes alot of gull to threaten someone especially by shooting them for looking and passing you on the water. This guy just seems like a real Ass Hole! Like you said "Ya might need saved sometime" pays to be nice to other boaters. He's running this boat on sheer "Pissed offness " Huge Mistake!!! I foresee a submarine about to emerge or Submerge.. Oh boy :wink:

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had to catch up on the read from about 11am yesterday to now.. lol alot unfolded.. that was an exciting read.. i thought for sure that bitch was aground and breaking apart...


here is my prediction... it will anchor in the free zone with all the squatters and will never make it to sea or under sail of its own power.. and while being towed.. wtf.. toss up a mail or aleast the jib and ta sail to help in the propulsion.. nope they are morons..

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:50 am 
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The Flyin' Hawaiian (without HR because he is still in jail) is still defying the odds and makes it to the next port of call.

Posted by Spoffo 14 August 2013 - 09:21 PM

OK folks. We can forget all that talk of the delta. He is in Sausalito, though I can't tell you where yet. As reported, I spotted him headed south under the Richmond bridge at 3:00. When I got a look from the Corte Madera wetlands area a little later, he appeared to be way over by Richmond, possibly heading for the Berkeley marina. I sped on to the Paradise Drive overlook on the back side of Tuburon, up above theParadise Cay neighborhood. At that point it was clear that he was heading back over toward the Marin side, and I was finally able to get some pictures. I then followed him around as he headed through Racoon Strait and off toward the GG before he hung a right toward Sausalito and disappeared behind Belvedere.

At that point I had to drop off the chase and head for home, and now I have to leave for a meeting in 5 minutes, so no pictures until around 9PM our time.

One interesting question was who was driving the Bayliner? Someone here reported that it was HR hisself, but when I put the scope on him, it just didn't look like him. At one point, I thought I saw a big flash of red hair that would say Michael was driving, but when I got a closer look down toward Tiburon, it didn't look like him either. It looked like a man about MIchael's size, but with short dark hair and maybe a beard.

Which would make sense, when you think of it. Towing a boat that big with the Bayliner through all the traffic etc of the main bay past Richmond and then through the tide rips at Racoon strait is a non-trivial piece of seamanship. And, as far as I could see, it was all carried off pretty competently. So, maybe they did the smart thing and got a "pilot" who knows what he's doing to con this expedition. That seems likely if Michael was in charge, less likely if it was the Rod-man (and his ego.) Something else we need to to find out. Come back for pix, gotta run.



Posted by Spoffo Yesterday, 12:55 AM

Pictures from the BIG tow, including a pair that (along with HR's mug shot from Sutter County) proves that they had a friend or hired gun who helped with the move, probably by driving the Bayliner. Also, a heartbreaking portrait of FH pointed straight at Hawaii just before they made the big right turn into Sausalito. Otherwise they pretty much speak for themselves. No obvious signs of damage I could see as they completed this journey, but I'll try to get a closer look tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:03 am 
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Posted by Spoffo Today, 02:38 AM

Sausalito PIX of FH! So I drove down to Sausalito today to try to find FH in its new home. No problemo. The Beige Behemoth stands out anywhere. It's a little south of a line between Clipper Yacht Harbor and the blocked-off south end of West Shore Road in Belvedere, anchored just to the east of the anchored-out fleet. (See first picture) The bad news is that there's no place to get an easy close-up view like we had off Spinnaker Point. He's around half a mile from the Belvedere Shore and even farther from Sausalito. You'll need a decent scope to see any kind of detail.

Probably the best viewpoint is from the Belvedere side. Drive to the end of West Shore Road. At the end, where it's blocked off you can walk up a little switchback that was once part of the street. A little way up there's a clearing and a viewing bench that will give you a great view of FH against the Sausalito shore. The 3rd picture was taken from there. The other was taken from the point in Clipper on the Sausalito side.

What doesn't show in the pictures, but was obvious through the scope, is that the long tow from San Rafael did take a toll. The forward-most panel on the outside of the port bow now has a very obvious raised seam line running the full width of the panel directly aft of the spot with the visible tape repair from where they carved it up with the anchor rode. Somehow between the pressure of the tow line against inadequate structure and the pressures of plowing through the water for 2 - 3 hours, something is seriously wet, working or both.

Finally, because some of the non-locals seemed to have trouble grasping the vast culture gap that separates the beautiful people in the Sausalito marinas and the more "independent" :unsure: anchor-out folk, I shot pix of just a few primo anchor-out examples. From these it should be clear that 1) HR may have found his people and 2) In this crowd FH could well be the queen of the fleet.


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Finally, we need someone down closer to the Sausalito area to take over as reporter/photographer, ideally someone who can develop some of the dockside crowd (which is vastly bigger than at Loch Lomand) as auxiliary eyes and ears. There's no way I can continue to run all the way down there every day to do this, especially since I suspect they're going to just sit there doing nothing at least until HR rejoins them. If someone is wiling to step forward and take over daily coverage, I've got an extra scope I'd be willing to lend you. (Seriously. Send me a PM)

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Ya I haven't heard anything either... Is it still afloat??

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There was also a report about a hole (the size of a quarter) from hitting a rock or something. The FH was taking on water. Actual USCG report on this one. They responded, however the crew was able to "repair" the hole and pump out on their own.

There are also some reports of the FH location, which is now further inland than a few weeks ago.

It appears to still be afloat. Here is a post from Sailing Anarchy 3 days ago:

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I apologize for taking so long on this but I have some real news. I would have posted this much sooner but my work laptop won't let me access the SA domain (go figure) and I'm just now back home to be able to register and post.

First some background: my buddy Rick and I have been following the saga of the FH since back when it was under construction. We had even given serious thought to coming over to see her splashed but we were outwitted by the Hot Rod and his late night launch efforts. So I kept reading on here (and Wooden Boat) for a while, but started paying less attention as things got crazier. I travel for work every few weeks, and keeping up with the frequency/insanity of the posts when I got home got to be too much and I fell behind on the saga.

Anyway imagine my surprise when I got a call a couple weeks ago from Rick, who lives in Sausalito, saying "guess who I'm watching from my bedroom window?" He keeps a powerboat at Richardson Bay so we decided we should go out and give the FH and crew a little housewarming. Before anyone says anything about how stupid that was because of an assumption over how unhinged the crew might be I should say that Rick is a retired military pilot with many, many carrier landings logged and is pretty much unfazed by anything so I didn't think twice about going out there with him. On my way to the marina I picked up two six packs (one of Bass and one of Bud Light to cover all the bases) as a peace offering then Rick and I headed out.

When we got there, the "Pilot" and Michael were on the back porch and they waved us in pointing for us to come to the left (port?) hull. Pilot took our line and secured us (with a bowline even!) to the 2x4 toerail. He was late 30s/early 40s, looked like he was related to Michael, and immediately took a Bud Light as he introduced himself as Dan. Michael introduced himself as Mike and declined a beer. Rick said "you sure?" and he hook his head no. The most notable thing about him (aside from passing on a beer and how soft spoken he was) was that he looked EXHAUSTED. He looked as tired as a guy could be, the sort of look you get when you haven't slept for a couple days. Totally, totally beat. We weren't invited inside (below?) so I don't know if anyone else was aboard, but it didn't feel like there was. We hung out on the porch and had our beers while Dan did most of the talking. There were frequent references to someone named "Jimmy", like "when Jimmy gets back they'll do this, when Jimmy is back they'll do that" and I can only assume he was talking about the Hot Rod. We never asked where Jimmy was and they never offered. The one time Mike spoke up was when we asked about their plans for the winter. He laughed and said something like: "find someplace calm and stay there!"

A couple observations about the FH: Kon Tiki it's not. The thing feels SOLID when you're aboard, and it moves in the waves as one hulking mass. That's not so comforting though because it makes an insane noise with bigger waves, a squeal from hell like that sound a framing nail makes when you pull it out of a board with a hammer claw. It was awful and never ending but Mike and Dan seemed to not notice it. Someone in an earlier post mentioned hearing a motor aboard like a genset, we heard that too. Rick wondered if it was maybe a pump, but I'm sure it was a generator forward in the right hull. Motorcycle was not anywhere to be seen and we didn't ask about it. I thought the porch would be springy under our feet, but it wasn't at all. I never went forward but Rick did and he said the "trampoline" area felt just as solid. The most alarming thing I saw (that wasn't the 2x4 toerail) was damage to the hull outboard of the steps where we boarded about 6 inches above the waterline. A crack along the edge that looked like it had been repaired once had opened up and you could see splinters inside of the outer ply laminate stuck to the glass.

Now for the best part. Rick asked Mike what he thought of everything going on here in the SA thread and was met with…a totally blank stare. We explained a little and he said "you mean the Wooden Boat thing?" We told him about it and he laughed and said he never got into "web stuff" on the boat because it used up his data. I asked if his dad might have been posting and Mike made a face like I'd just asked the most ridiculous question ever. He seriously had no idea about this thread (or SA, for that matter) but said he would check it out the next time he got to the library when he was ashore. Rick wrote down the SA web address for him and told him "they call you Red Viking on there" Mike shook his head and looked baffled.

Mike seemed preoccupied (and dead tired, as I'd said above) so we started to say goodbye to get out of his hair. Dan asked if we could give him (and his gas can) and lift back to shore which we were happy to do. When we were far enough away Dan (on his third beer) said "Jimmy is a man who knows how to get in over his head" which gave us all a good laugh. But he did add that he seemed sure that Mike had enough common sense to not let them do anything too stupid.

Dan lit up a smoke the moment we were on solid ground. The biggest excitement of the day came when he bent down and vented the gas can with his lit cigarette in his mouth.

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{""The thing feels SOLID when you're aboard, and it moves in the waves as one hulking mass. That's not so comforting though because it makes an insane noise with bigger waves, a squeal from hell like that sound a framing nail makes when you pull it out of a board with a hammer claw. It was awful and never ending""

"Jimmy is a man who knows how to get in over his head" which gave us all a good laugh. But he did add that he seemed sure that Mike had enough common sense to not let them do anything too stupid.

Dan lit up a smoke the moment we were on solid ground. The biggest excitement of the day came when he bent down and vented the gas can with his lit cigarette in his mouth.}

HAHAH :shock: :lol: i about made a puddle of pee under my desk laughing at these remarks..

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Got to say, when you look at these pictures, it sure was a monumental amount of work. It's too bad he did not build something on land with a foundation of concrete instead of water. The expected life-span would have been a lot longer.

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