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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:01 am 
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I've read this several times now in anticipation of jumping in our new 288 this Spring. I'll also reach out to the Winnisquam Marine guys for some "hands on".

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/docking.htm

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:04 pm 
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Cattailspa wrote:
Just a little advice on your docking practice. Just do everything slow. Do not be in a hurry to get her in the slip. Just move the controls a little and wait for it. And make sure your wheel is centered. Then just use your motors. And have fun


I always dislike the 'go slow' advice. Usually because it doesn't take into account that some hulls really do not handle well at dead slow speeds. I find our 348 is MUCH more maneuverable when given a little bit more than just 'in gear' speed. Not much more, perhaps the difference between 3.5mph and 4.5mph. You wouldn't think it'd matter that much but it does. The boat tends to start wandering when going "too slow" down the fairway between slips. Giving it a bit more power helps keep it tracking properly. So if you find the boat tending to wander a bit off a straight path try using just a little more power.

As for maneuvering into the slip, yeah, that's definitely a time to be going slow. This is one area where big motions or lots of power are often not a friend (to your boat, your neighbor's boat, you wallet...) There's no shame in using the rub rails to help pivot the boat against a piling. Bear in mind they're 'rub' rails, not 'bang-into' rails, so make sure to use them just for smooth, slow contact.

What you really want to be looking for is 'point of no return' spots. As you get to know the boat you'll start to learn how readily you can maneuver to get out of problem situations. You learn just how much room the boat needs to turn, or distance to stop. Once you have a feel for that you can keep yourself a step or two ahead of when the boat gets into trouble spots. As in, you wander too close to a seawall and don't have enough room to swing the stern about. I had that happen once, got pushed by the wind up against the seawall of the marina and couldn't easily get off of it. Fortunately a fellow slip holder tossed me a line from the other side the fairway and we used that to pull the stern over. I couldn't easily get out of that situation because there was no place to tie up a line on the wall. What that experience taught me was to NOT let the boat start getting into that situation. Prevent the boat from getting past the point of no (easy) return.

As for engine-only maneuvering, that's good advice for inboards. For I/O's you do have the benefit of being able to actually get steerable thrust in reverse. But it's tricky set of vectoring angles trying to remember just where the props are pointing. For inboards it does next to no good to turn the rudders when in reverse as the prop wash is going the wrong way. That and when you change back into forward gear you might not remember about the rudders. When you keep the rudders/outdrives in dead-center position you take those added angles out of the equation. You can just get used to how the engines push/pull the boat. But once you know what you're doing it's handy to be able to use outdrive reverse to pull the stern over in that direction.

So get a feel for how your boat tracks along at a slow speed. Then see how it tracks with just a little more throttle. For me it made all the difference between hair-raising trips down the fairway and docking efforts guest compliment me about.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:46 pm 
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cougarcruiser wrote:
Got the heat set at 55 - so she'll stay warm. I was wondering if leaving the heat/ac system on would be a bad idea when it's down in the low 30's at night.


When I had my Carver 406MY, I would set the heat at 60 during the winter because it didn't have a bilge heater. My only concern was that the marine air blower would run continuously even when the heat wasn't on and I was worried that I would eventually burn it out (never happened and I did it for 4 winters). I now have a bilge heater in my 298 Vista and I don't worry about freezing weather or burning out my fan; however, it sure was nice boarding the already warm Carver on a cold Friday night.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:53 pm 
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Bear in mind that boat AC systems depend upon the water temperature. Once the water temp goes below a certain level (40F) the systems are no longer efficient. Then it's just wasted energy and wear. That and you're at risk of the water getting frozen in the lines, an expensive repair (assuming the hose hasn't burst and sunk the boat).

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:38 pm 
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Congrats on hitting the water from a fellow husky hater (OSU Alumn). But all of us in Oregon pretty well hate the UW.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:46 pm 
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Water temp is in mid-high 40's to the low 50's around here. So - the heat has been working ok for us so far. However - I am no longer running the heat off shore power. I put up a heat/dehumidifier and the weather is supposed to be pretty mild for the next week or so.

Took a great cruise today and had a blast! Had a near perfect back out and exit of the marina... My parking job when docking this afternoon took a couple tries to get straight, but I didn't hit anything or even use the rub rails!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:12 am 
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Cougar...
Glad to see you are enjoying your new toy and had a great experience with the Winnisquam guys!
Your learning curve will be a fun, exhilirating and at the same time nerve racking experience! I know I was really nervous when I moved up to the H260. I hope you enjoy your early boating season and keep posting the pictures for all of us to be jealous of!

BTW, I too have recently purchased a boat from Ed ....

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But, for the price I paid all I expect is a handshake and some help getting it on the trailer and a "Thank You" for your busines!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:34 am 
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Nice lookin' pontoon!

You know -- those Pontoon boats are sure growing in popularity out here in the west coast.

I think I saw that on their site and it was priced pretty great! You'll be able to really park in the middle and raft up with your family and 15 closest friends!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:54 am 
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cougarcruiser wrote:
You'll be able to really park in the middle and raft up with your family and 15 closest friends!


Yeah, park in the middle to hide it from view. A can bote? Ugh. They're like ugly dates and mopeds, fun until someone sees you.

I'm kidding, of course, really...

But I've got to unsubscribe. I've had this danged Lionel Ritchie song running through my head ever since this thread started. Every time it sends me a thread update mail message the tune repeats. Aieeeeeeeee!!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:55 am 
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I bought the pontoon to be my dock in the creek where I keep my boat! I couldn't build a dock for the price and this will keep all the boys off my 260 whenever we hang out at the dock (no more "beverage" spills to clean up or having to chase the smokers off!) . The docks in the creek got wrecked by some major early ice flow so I spotted this at exactly the right time. Now I just need to figure how I am going to haul it 8 hours home (I can borrow a trailer but will probably build one so I will have it to use each winter) and eventually secure it in the creek.

I think pontoon boats are great if you are on a inland lake that is small and calm. A pontoon on Lake Ontario where I boat would not be fun!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:57 am 
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millhaven_nice_guy wrote:
I bought the pontoon to be my dock in the creek where I keep my boat! I couldn't build a dock for the price!
That's a pretty clever idea. Good luck with hauling it home!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:16 pm 
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I must say I am very jealous!! Nice boat man. Way out of our price range however. Wife realy wanted a cruiser. Some day.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:21 am 
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Congrats on the sucessful launch CC! Beautiful boat. Keep the pix comming?

Just curious, why no bottom paint?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:30 am 
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Thanks for he good words.

Bottom paint is a tough subject. I don't really want to - I like the nice, clean look. Plus, I keep the boat in freshwater. On the other hand - the added maintenance of not having bottom paint doesn't sound great either.

The admiral and I decided to hold off until the 25 hour service/haul out to decide what we want to do. Plus - the water line will be well established by then.

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Congrats Cougarcruiser...must be nice to be boating while us poor souls back east are still buried in the white stuff. I hope Ed and Brandon (two of the best in the business) had a good time out there because they sure aren't boating on Winnisquam this time of year! Anyway...I'll wait for it to warm up in our neck of the woods as I am between boats right now anyway...waiting for delivery of my new one :lol: .
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