www.iFourWinns.com

Dedicated to Current and Future Owners
It is currently Sat May 03, 2025 4:32 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 18 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Winter Project = Done.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:22 pm 
Offline
GIDDY UP

Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:08 pm
Posts: 856
Location: Tulsa, OK
Last summer I had to be jump started 3 times from running the stereo over 3 1/2 hours. So while I was at it, I went ahead and replaced my Amp power & ground cables with #2 welding cable (about the equivelant to 3 ga.)
Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

_________________
Image
H210SS 6.2
F150 Platinum


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:45 pm 
Offline
Nauti Luv

Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:55 am
Posts: 2186
Location: Little Elm - Lake Lewisville TX
Brent - no Perko switch? You just gonna run her dead and charge as needed?

_________________
Current Boat:
2004 Sea Ray 320 Sundancer "Nauti Luvin'"

Previous Boats:
1999 298 Vista "Seas The Day"
2008 H200SS "Nauti Luv"
2006 Tahoe Q4


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:55 pm 
Offline
All Night Long
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:03 am
Posts: 1899
Location: Lake Washington, Seattle, WA
Looks great!

Why the welding cable rather than 2 guage power wire? price?

No desire to go dual-batteries?

_________________
Image
2008 318 Vista -SOLD, but I am still around!
All Night Long, Seattle WA


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:48 am 
Offline
Villiage Idiot

Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:28 pm
Posts: 1405
Location: Kansas City
Let me get this straight..... You had issues running the batt dead, so you've replaced it, but still only have one batt? Please do a search of the forums. I do remember discussions related to applications of Deep Cycle vs Cranking batts. I'm going to assume you still have the cranking batt for starting and the "normal" loads, and simply installed this one to run the amps and stereo. That's the setup my in-law uses, but has a relay for charging the stereo batt anytime the boat is running.

Kudos on using welding cable for power of the stereo components. The high frequencies that the amp and stereo generate and use are more easily passed using the fine mesh of welding cable, compared to the larger diameter of standard cables. This should minimize noise on the speakers, and other random "issues" with things like the fuel pump and ignition.

_________________
Walt B
"Debt-Charged"
Black '07 H210SS
6.2L Bravo One turning a 21P HIFive
Wakeboard Tower with Perfect Pass Stargazer version
Missouri River; Kansas City, Mo.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:35 pm 
Offline
Nauti Luv

Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:55 am
Posts: 2186
Location: Little Elm - Lake Lewisville TX
I can tell by the location, this is a secondary battery, not the main cranking battery.

I am working on the same project right now myself, but I am going to just have 2 cranking batteries connected by a Perko switch. If I could get my hands on long enough battery cables today, I would be working on it.

_________________
Current Boat:
2004 Sea Ray 320 Sundancer "Nauti Luvin'"

Previous Boats:
1999 298 Vista "Seas The Day"
2008 H200SS "Nauti Luv"
2006 Tahoe Q4


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:58 pm 
Offline
email admin your custom rank

Joined: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:26 pm
Posts: 5688
Location: Long Island NY
I put the dual batt system in my old '88 Horizon a couple of years ago, one of the best mods I have done to it. The old cables were all salt corroded anyway so I ran all new cables, switch and put in 2 group 27 dual purpose batteries. I just alternate the use of the batteries from one trip to the next. Never a starting failure in the 5 years I have this system. I recommend dual purpose batteries for smaller boats where the electrical system is not divided into engine and house loads, it keeps things simpler and works very well.

_________________
88 Four Winns 200 Horizon
4.3 OMC Cobra-4bbl
2002 Walker Bay 10/2012 Suzuki 2.5
2008 Walker Bay 8

1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0/Selectrac
2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi/Quadradrive II


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:34 pm 
Offline
GIDDY UP

Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:08 pm
Posts: 856
Location: Tulsa, OK
Yep. The ONLY thing this battery does is power the amp. I did not spend the extra $50 - $60 to put it on a switch. If I run this batt dead, it would take about 8 hours of engine running time to re-charge it. It should give me about 6 hours of play before it needs re-charging anyway.

The cable cost me pennies vs. purchasing specific audio grade cable @ $5.50/ft.

_________________
Image
H210SS 6.2
F150 Platinum


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:21 pm 
Offline
Nauti Luv

Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:55 am
Posts: 2186
Location: Little Elm - Lake Lewisville TX
I mounted my secondary battery today, in the same spot. I have to get some cables though to get it all connected...but its at least part of the way done.

_________________
Current Boat:
2004 Sea Ray 320 Sundancer "Nauti Luvin'"

Previous Boats:
1999 298 Vista "Seas The Day"
2008 H200SS "Nauti Luv"
2006 Tahoe Q4


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:30 am 
Offline
email admin your custom rank

Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:11 am
Posts: 663
Location: Corinth, TX
I ordered the boat with the dual batt setup and intalled after market dual batt charger. When she comes off the water I always plug in the dual batt charger and I've always got 2 fully charged batteries. So far so good, never needed a jump.

_________________
2008 H210SS VP 5.7 Gi/SX
2011 Ford F150 FX4 EB
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:39 am 
Offline
All Night Long
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:03 am
Posts: 1899
Location: Lake Washington, Seattle, WA
Hey Brent - where is a good place for that welding wire? Seems like a good alternative to using car audio power cable? especially if the price is right!

_________________
Image
2008 318 Vista -SOLD, but I am still around!
All Night Long, Seattle WA


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:49 am 
Offline
email admin your custom rank
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:41 am
Posts: 1182
Location: Appleton, WI
Not sure where Brent got his, but we buy it for work at Grainger. My cost is $2.34/ft.

_________________
1998 Baja Boss 252 7.4L MPI Bravo 1 (SOLD)
2007 FW H200SS 5.0GXI (Sold)
2004 Chevy Silverado 2500 Crew 6.0L (tow vehicle)
1991 FW 170 Freedom 4.3L (SOLD)
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:06 pm 
Offline
GIDDY UP

Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:08 pm
Posts: 856
Location: Tulsa, OK
We buy it in VERY large quantities. My cost is just under $2/ft.
Call up your local welding supply store. I found this by doing a quick search.

_________________
Image
H210SS 6.2
F150 Platinum


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:03 pm 
Offline
email admin your custom rank
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:41 am
Posts: 1182
Location: Appleton, WI
I only buy 50 feet at a time from Gainger. WE do have an account there so not sure how much they charge the average jo.

_________________
1998 Baja Boss 252 7.4L MPI Bravo 1 (SOLD)
2007 FW H200SS 5.0GXI (Sold)
2004 Chevy Silverado 2500 Crew 6.0L (tow vehicle)
1991 FW 170 Freedom 4.3L (SOLD)
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:24 pm 
Offline
Nauti Luv

Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:55 am
Posts: 2186
Location: Little Elm - Lake Lewisville TX
impulse wrote:
I ordered the boat with the dual batt setup and intalled after market dual batt charger. When she comes off the water I always plug in the dual batt charger and I've always got 2 fully charged batteries. So far so good, never needed a jump.


Do you keep your boat at your house? Fit in the garage etc??

_________________
Current Boat:
2004 Sea Ray 320 Sundancer "Nauti Luvin'"

Previous Boats:
1999 298 Vista "Seas The Day"
2008 H200SS "Nauti Luv"
2006 Tahoe Q4


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:21 pm 
Offline
email admin your custom rank
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:41 am
Posts: 1182
Location: Appleton, WI
aguyindallas wrote:
impulse wrote:
I ordered the boat with the dual batt setup and intalled after market dual batt charger. When she comes off the water I always plug in the dual batt charger and I've always got 2 fully charged batteries. So far so good, never needed a jump.


Do you keep your boat at your house? Fit in the garage etc??

Mine fits in the garage. With about 2 feet to spare.

_________________
1998 Baja Boss 252 7.4L MPI Bravo 1 (SOLD)
2007 FW H200SS 5.0GXI (Sold)
2004 Chevy Silverado 2500 Crew 6.0L (tow vehicle)
1991 FW 170 Freedom 4.3L (SOLD)
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 18 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 41 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group