348 Vista/V358/V375 Thread

wkearney99 · **Posted:** Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:10 pm

cougarcruiser wrote:

There's got to be a story and some pictures for this!

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Crab pots out here have to be tagged with contact information -- any way you can track down the owner of that pot and have a healthy conversation with him?

No such luck around here. That and all I found once it was pulled was that hunk of ragged line.

Better Luck · **Posted:** Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:30 am

On our trip to Tangier Island we must have struck a pot just upon entering the channel to go into port. My starboard drive began over-revving. I brought both engines into neutral, hoping that would fix the problem, tried to go back on plane and she was still over-revving. We could not deal with the issue at the moment as the currents were fairly strong and there is a jetty just off your starboard side entering the mouth of the inlet into the "Harbor". When we got into our transient slip, my brave partner went into the water and felt around the drives and props and didn't notice anything out of place.

We decided to cross our fingers and hope for the best and just enjoyed our time on the island. The next morning we fueled up and went back out into the bay and thankfully all was normal. My theory was that we just snagged the line and it lifted my drive and it cavitated and since I could not put the boat into reverse to re-seat it, it continued to over-rev.

We got lucky!

wkearney99 · **Posted:** Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:20 pm

What kept you from putting it into reverse? And how did that correct itself?

I don't know if it applies with your setup but I do recall reading that some sterndrive props can get 'spun' and ruin their internal rubber bearing. This leads to the prop failing to 'bite' under load and over-revving. Don't know if that's relevant to you situation, but sounds like it worked itself out.

Better Luck · **Posted:** Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:11 am

Bill,
Going into Tangier from the west side was a bit tricky, there is a small jetty of rocks and if you aren't careful you could wind up on them. We were excited and relieved that we crossed the bay for the first time and were somewhat anxious to get into port and we were really close to the channel. I did not want to fiddle around with trying to go into reverse to re-seat the drive considering the waves which were 2-3 footers and the drift would put us into a perilous situation being so close to shore. I figured that the damage was done if any, lets get to port. We soldiered on about a couple of hundred yards and docked the boat. The next morning there was no issue with over revving and we went to our next port of call without incident.

wkearney99 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:01 am

Better Luck wrote:

I did not want to fiddle around with trying to go into reverse to re-seat the drive considering the waves which were 2-3 footers and the drift would put us into a perilous situation being so close to shore.

Oh I get it now, it wasn't a matter of something being broken that prevented it. It was the potential of greater problems being caused. Gotcha. Glad it worked out.

Better Luck · **Posted:** Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:52 am

I was not sure if anything was broken or not at the point of impact. Just didn't want to find out since doing so might have put us in a perilous situation given the current and waves. It all worked out though.

sfive00 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:12 pm

Lately my Ship System battery has been showing low voltage (down to 10 and below) after about an hour of anchoring. Fridge, stereo, and C80 are running. I end up running the generator for a good 30 mins to recharge.

The dual gauges at the helm show 12 volts. Engines always start with no issue.

What would you recommend: a) Only change the Ship's Systems battery b) Change the three batteries.

which battery is best suited for the 348 systems.

I read a dual 6 volt golf cart batteries can do a better job for the Ship's system.

Sierra · **Posted:** Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:27 am

sfive00 wrote:

Lately my Ship System battery has been showing low voltage (down to 10 and below) after about an hour of anchoring. Fridge, stereo, and C80 are running. I end up running the generator for a good 30 mins to recharge.

The dual gauges at the helm show 12 volts. Engines always start with no issue.

What would you recommend: a) Only change the Ship's Systems battery b) Change the three batteries.

which battery is best suited for the 348 systems.

I read a dual 6 volt golf cart batteries can do a better job for the Ship's system.

Realizing, of course, there are 39 pages to this thread, I encourage you to scan through as this subject has been covered in great detail with a number of options. I replaced my ship's systems battery with an AGM type, added a second and have had great success. It is also a relatively easy install. Bill K. did the golf battery setup, also with great success, but a more challenging installation. Again, each of these setups is detailed in these pages.

If your engines are cranking fine, you need not change your engine batteries. But if you change the type of house battery you use, it is best not to mix and match (I now have all AGMs - which apparently can be mixed with Lead Acid but it's better not to as the charger has different settings for each. Gels cannot mix with other types).

wkearney99 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:47 am

Sierra wrote:

If your engines are cranking fine, you need not change your engine batteries. But if you change the type of house battery you use, it is best not to mix and match (I now have all AGMs - which apparently can be mixed with Lead Acid but it's better not to as the charger has different settings for each. Gels cannot mix with other types).

To clarify, your engine batteries are totally separate from the one running your accessories (the ships system battery). Each engine has it's own dedicated battery. They can be combined in the event one of them goes dead. There's a switch on the helm that does it. It pairs them so the one good battery can start the other engine. It only pairs them temporarily and cannot be used to add capacity to the ships system. It's just for starting, that's all.

I'm unclear on what you mean by mixing types. I seem to recall that the charger is smart enough to understand how to charge a battery and they're all charged separately. But I'd certainly recommend verifying what your actual charger can do FIRST. It may be that while they're charged individually they have to be the same type. Check your manual, or call the charger vendor.

I did add two 6v batteries in series, then paralleled to the single ships system battery. It's given me more than enough battery life on the hook to run everything I need. The single battery alone was not enough to keep the fridge and chartplotter running all night (without the genset, that is). I no longer have that problem. If I were to do it again (or when I replace the 6v's) I'd probably just go with a single 12v. I went with two because I was REALLY sick of running out of juice and figured that would overkill the problem, and it did. But a single 12v added would probably be enough. I also went with two 6v cells because there wasn't room or clearance to install one of those larger 4D (or whatever they're called) cells. If/when I have to replace any of them I might look into replacing the single ships battery with a single larger cell in it's current location. But that's not on the To Do list currently.

Sierra · **Posted:** Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:54 am

wkearney99 wrote:

I'm unclear on what you mean by mixing types. I seem to recall that the charger is smart enough to understand how to charge a battery and they're all charged separately. But I'd certainly recommend verifying what your actual charger can do FIRST.

The charging parameters for lead acid, AGM and gel batteries are different. The newer chargers, such as those on the '08 V358, have a distinct setting for each. Lead acid and AGMs have similar enough charging parameters such that they can be mixed and the 'lead acid' setting is used on chargers which don't feature a distinct AGM setting. Gel batteries charge in a way different enough that it is not recommended they be mixed with other battery types or charged without a charger designed for gels.

Better Luck · **Posted:** Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:45 am

I wound up with a store credit from West Marine and decided to buy on of those solar chargers for my batteries. It is the Sunsei sc1500 which is more than a trickle charger. Not sure what the results will be but I will keep you posted. I am hooking this up to my house battery.

wkearney99 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:41 am

Better Luck wrote:

It is the Sunsei se1500 which is more than a trickle charger.

Where are you planning on laying it out?

Better Luck · **Posted:** Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:48 pm

wkearney99 wrote:

Better Luck wrote:

It is the Sunsei se1500 which is more than a trickle charger.

Where are you planning on laying it out?

Good Question Bill, when I get it and have time i'll let you know ans show pics.

Sierra · **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:00 pm

I'm about to have a spare set of props made. Before I do, I was hoping someone could confirm that the Volvo 5.7 V-drives use 18 x 24 (nibral) wheels over 1 1/2" shafts. This is what FW told my dealer, but they've been wrong before so I'm seeking a second opinion. Anyone?

Better Luck · **Posted:** Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:42 pm

How much is your deductible? At Aquapalooza we encountered a storm and realized about $7000.00 in damages. I have to pay 1% of the agreed value as a deductible. A friend who also sustained damage has comprehensive on his policy and has a $250.00 deductible.

Who has what kind of coverage and what companies are you all with and about jow much is your premium? Ours is $1120.00 a year.

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