www.iFourWinns.com

Dedicated to Current and Future Owners
It is currently Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:18 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 18 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Winter Lay up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:02 am 
Offline
email admin your custom rank

Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:56 pm
Posts: 1046
Location: Millhaven, ON
I have never had to "lay up" a boat for the winter and now I have to store the 93 245 Vista I bought recently in my yard. For you guys that don't have trailers --How do you block it up? I assume that a travel lift or hydraulic trailer pulls you out? Any idea how I can get this boat off my bunk trailer?

_________________
Marc, Kathlin & Nathalie

Image
'89 Chaparral Laser 32

'93 Vista 245, 5.8L w/ King Cobra

Former Boats
'01 H260, 7.4 VP Duoprop
'98 H200, 5.0 GL w/VP SX drive


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Lay up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:34 am 
Offline
All Night Long
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:03 am
Posts: 1899
Location: Lake Washington, Seattle, WA
Get the back corners of the boat on stands leaving only the front on the trailer
It's a process to block/jack up the boat/shimmy the trailer forward - moving blocks and redistributing weight.

At least, that's how I've heard it done in the past.

Not fun.

_________________
Image
2008 318 Vista -SOLD, but I am still around!
All Night Long, Seattle WA


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Lay up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:18 pm 
Offline
email admin your custom rank

Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:56 pm
Posts: 1046
Location: Millhaven, ON
Yeah I figured as much...The no fun part. All the cross members on my trailer are going to allow me to only pull the trailer ahead 18-24" at a time plus I will need to secure the back of the boat to something solid so I don't pull it off the back jacks! I am sure that this will be a game of patience, skill, trust and goodluck all at the same time! Loading it back on in the spring will be equally as big of a PITA !!! Hopefully by then I have it's own trailer.

_________________
Marc, Kathlin & Nathalie

Image
'89 Chaparral Laser 32

'93 Vista 245, 5.8L w/ King Cobra

Former Boats
'01 H260, 7.4 VP Duoprop
'98 H200, 5.0 GL w/VP SX drive


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Lay up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:23 pm 
Offline
268 Vista

Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 9:49 am
Posts: 4989
Location: West Michigan
Launch the boat, and have a marina use a hydraulic trailer to move the boat to it's storage facility, and it can be put on stands that way. It's probably hard to tell from this picture, but our boat is on that type of trailer here.

Image

They back it in to it's winter home. Put stands on the hull, lower the trailer and pull it out.
Then block it. And she sleeps all winter like that.

Image

It's the way our facility does all their boats, since they do not have a travel lift. They have a larger trailer for the 40' to 65' boats, it works the same way. Or, many marina's that have in and out service, just use a huge fork lift. pull it out of the water, put it on stands and blocks, and pull the forks out. That is what will be used for our winter lay up this year, as we are rack storing it this year for a change, and it's cheaper too.

_________________
One of 4 Previous (Sold) Boats:
2000 Four Winns 268 Vista
Image
Current Boat: 2004 Chaparral 235 ssi cuddy
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Lay up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:30 pm 
Offline
email admin your custom rank

Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:56 pm
Posts: 1046
Location: Millhaven, ON
Thanks Cap'n! That picture gives me a better idea as to the amount of support that is required. I'll have to get myself some material so I can build some stands. I have lots of blocking material around the house so that won't be a problem. I have thought about getting the local marina to use their trailer but I am afraid to ask because they are so expensive! they charged my buddy $400 to pick up his sailboat and take it 5 minutes to their yard and launch it. Total time spent was less than 1.5 hours!

_________________
Marc, Kathlin & Nathalie

Image
'89 Chaparral Laser 32

'93 Vista 245, 5.8L w/ King Cobra

Former Boats
'01 H260, 7.4 VP Duoprop
'98 H200, 5.0 GL w/VP SX drive


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Lay up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:36 pm 
Offline
268 Vista

Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 9:49 am
Posts: 4989
Location: West Michigan
I hear ya, it cost me $150 to have mine hauled 3 miles from the ramp to the dealer for service once. Only had to do it once luckily. You might ask the marina anyway, and
show the driver a case or two of fine Canadian beverage, and the price might just be lower. :wink:

_________________
One of 4 Previous (Sold) Boats:
2000 Four Winns 268 Vista
Image
Current Boat: 2004 Chaparral 235 ssi cuddy
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Lay up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:56 pm 
Offline
email admin your custom rank

Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:56 pm
Posts: 1046
Location: Millhaven, ON
I just went down to my back shop and scoped out four nice pipe stands! We have about 30-40 out there in different heights but was originally concerned they wouldn't carry the weight. But upon review of your picture it is obvious to me that the weight is taken by the blocks under the keel and the stands are for side to side stability. I'm going to load 4 small, 4 medium and 4 tall in the truck tonight so I can get this to work. I am stubborn so I will attempt this myself. I have a tractor for an anchor and will just leave my truck attached to the trailer so I can keep pulling out the trailer. It may not go so bad!

_________________
Marc, Kathlin & Nathalie

Image
'89 Chaparral Laser 32

'93 Vista 245, 5.8L w/ King Cobra

Former Boats
'01 H260, 7.4 VP Duoprop
'98 H200, 5.0 GL w/VP SX drive


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Lay up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:11 pm 
Offline
email admin your custom rank
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:14 pm
Posts: 906
Location: New Hampshire
Make sure you have the video camera running!

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :wink:

_________________
Gordon Arnold
New Hampshire

2003 268 Vista ..................................................................Prior: 97 245 Sundowner
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Lay up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:24 pm 
Offline
email admin your custom rank

Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:56 pm
Posts: 1046
Location: Millhaven, ON
M3eater wrote:
Make sure you have the video camera running!

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :wink:


Now, Now that's not very nice! I am confident that i can do this with great success! You'll get a couple of pictures! Hopefully she'll still be standing upright!

_________________
Marc, Kathlin & Nathalie

Image
'89 Chaparral Laser 32

'93 Vista 245, 5.8L w/ King Cobra

Former Boats
'01 H260, 7.4 VP Duoprop
'98 H200, 5.0 GL w/VP SX drive


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Lay up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:28 pm 
Offline
email admin your custom rank

Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:56 am
Posts: 931
Location: Georgian Bay, Ontario
Hire a small pitman crane in your area, find someone that drives one and offer him cash!

_________________
2001 328 Vista "Nauta Dream 2"
AB Inflatable 10AL "Little Dreamer"
2000 248 Vista
1997 225 Sundowner


Mike


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Lay up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:05 pm 
Offline
email admin your custom rank
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:14 pm
Posts: 906
Location: New Hampshire
millhaven_nice_guy wrote:
M3eater wrote:
Make sure you have the video camera running!

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :wink:


Now, Now that's not very nice! I am confident that i can do this with great success! You'll get a couple of pictures! Hopefully she'll still be standing upright!



..... Here, hold my beer ....... Watch this!





8)

_________________
Gordon Arnold
New Hampshire

2003 268 Vista ..................................................................Prior: 97 245 Sundowner
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Lay up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:25 pm 
Offline
email admin your custom rank

Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:56 pm
Posts: 1046
Location: Millhaven, ON
acguy wrote:
Hire a small pitman crane in your area, find someone that drives one and offer him cash!


I hire cranes on a regualr basis but they don't work weekends without big $$$. It is a good idea though. We had our own pitman here but sold it three years ago. If I don't get her off my trailer this weekend then I will exercise one of these options since I don't want to wait until thers snow on the ground to be doing my winterization and cleaning.

_________________
Marc, Kathlin & Nathalie

Image
'89 Chaparral Laser 32

'93 Vista 245, 5.8L w/ King Cobra

Former Boats
'01 H260, 7.4 VP Duoprop
'98 H200, 5.0 GL w/VP SX drive


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Lay up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:29 pm 
Offline
268 Vista

Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 9:49 am
Posts: 4989
Location: West Michigan
millhaven_nice_guy wrote:
acguy wrote:
Hire a small pitman crane in your area, find someone that drives one and offer him cash!


I will exercise one of these options since I don't want to wait until thers snow on the ground to be doing my winterization and cleaning.


That should give you about one more week to Git R' Done :mrgreen:

_________________
One of 4 Previous (Sold) Boats:
2000 Four Winns 268 Vista
Image
Current Boat: 2004 Chaparral 235 ssi cuddy
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Lay up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:38 pm 
Offline
email admin your custom rank

Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:56 pm
Posts: 1046
Location: Millhaven, ON
You got that right Cap'n. Going down to just plus 4 C overnight here already! Where the hell is Indian summer?

_________________
Marc, Kathlin & Nathalie

Image
'89 Chaparral Laser 32

'93 Vista 245, 5.8L w/ King Cobra

Former Boats
'01 H260, 7.4 VP Duoprop
'98 H200, 5.0 GL w/VP SX drive


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Lay up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:20 pm 
Offline
email admin your custom rank

Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:56 am
Posts: 931
Location: Georgian Bay, Ontario
No doubt, still have the boat on lake erie, was hoping to keep it in untill after our canadian thanksgiving!!

_________________
2001 328 Vista "Nauta Dream 2"
AB Inflatable 10AL "Little Dreamer"
2000 248 Vista
1997 225 Sundowner


Mike


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 18 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 17 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group