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Hey Lou, I'm definately going to pull the hose (have time tomorrow). I was on the fence about using AF so I called a few dealers around here (Texas) and all winterize dry without problem so that's what I decided to do. Thanks for the tip on Brakleen. My can in the garage says "non-flamable" so that's what I'll use. I've got enough ribs in the freezer for three if you both want to come down. They'd taste alot better with ICE COLD brew though Graham.

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2003 Four Winns Horizon 210
VP 5.0 GXI SX
"THE GREEN HORNET"

Sounds good... starting to get cold n nasty around here...which is what the weather will be like till April...when I pull off the boat cover and get the ole red tub ready for another salty season.......how's about learning how to make a Long Island Iced Tea? one powerful potion........

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88 Four Winns 200 Horizon
4.3 OMC Cobra-4bbl
2002 Walker Bay 10/2012 Suzuki 2.5
2008 Walker Bay 8

1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0/Selectrac
2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi/Quadradrive II

Graham these antifreezes are rated by burst temp not freeze point temp because they are typically used to winterize water systems and stored engines.. in other words it does get solidified...but it does not expand and break things....so when they say -100 bust temp...it's really more like -60 freeze temp (stays liquid till about that cold...) the idea is that it gives a cushion if there is some water that did not drain...I took a gallon of the -60 stuff and put it in the freezer at zero F and it got a little hard but did not expand...so this would have been fine to fill a stored engine with but the -100 was completely liquid at that temp so I felt better with that...it sure costs more though...

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88 Four Winns 200 Horizon
4.3 OMC Cobra-4bbl
2002 Walker Bay 10/2012 Suzuki 2.5
2008 Walker Bay 8

1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0/Selectrac
2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi/Quadradrive II

Hey Guys, I'm out on the boat now. Just cleaned the spark arrestor and am trying to find the power steering cooler. Is it on the back of the motor and looks like a 2" diameter or so piece of black pipe about 1' long with a hose on each end of it? I pulled the highest hose off of it and stuck my finger down it and there's no water. If that's the cooler, wouldn't it have drained when I pulled both hoses at the water pump? The lower hose on the black pipe (cooler?) is one of the two that runs to the water pump and it runs downhill from tube to pump. I wish my VP manuals talked about this a little more than what it does.

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2003 Four Winns Horizon 210
VP 5.0 GXI SX
"THE GREEN HORNET"

I just went back and re-read the posts in this thread and have come to the conclusion that the "black pipe" is the cooler. Mine is like yours Graham in that it angles downward twords the water pump and has a nipple on top capped off by a rubber plug cap. It drained when I pulled the hoses at the water pump so I'm good. My manual didn't mention this (the cooler) but did say to pull both hoses at the pump. They knew it'd drain when hoses were pulled. The GREEN HORNET is ready for winter! Thanks again guys.

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2003 Four Winns Horizon 210
VP 5.0 GXI SX
"THE GREEN HORNET"

I just read the fine print on my pink stuff and it said that the burst temp is only -3 degrees for plastic and -51 for copper. I know my engine will be safe but now i'm worried about my water system.

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Alexj



1995 Four Winns Horizon 190
OMC 5.0 RL