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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:31 pm 
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First time I'm trying to siphon gas out of my 2008 H180 for winter( don't want to leave 1/2 tank of fuel). Tried my trusty 6 foot car siphon hose.. doesn't reach the fuel :-( Next up was about 8 feet of 1/2inch garden hose.. I can get about 6 or so feet 'in', then it seems to 'hit' something, and I can't for the life of me actually get it into the gas.. Is there some sort of check valve in my way?

Looking for advice/guidance on how to proceed?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:14 pm 
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I always thought that you don't want to empty the tank. Air has moisture will end up as water in your tank.

I think that you should fill that tank and add a fuel stabilizer.

Can any onle else back that up?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:21 pm 
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don't siphon the gas out. A full tank of gas helps keep moisture out of your tank. Fill up your tank and add fuel stabilizer.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:33 pm 
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I'm with those guys. Store with gas in and stabilizer is all I've ever heard.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:46 pm 
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+1 to filling the gas tank up and adding fuel stablizer...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:06 pm 
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ok.. it is definitely easier to add stabilizer than siphoning out the gas :D

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:44 pm 
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I always fill my tank up and add stablizer before winterizing... thats the easiest way.

As a bonus you'll have a full tank to start the new season! :D

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:32 pm 
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I always fill mine, partially to keep moisture from forming, partially so I don't have to worry about it at the start of next season, and partially because I know what gas costs now... who knows what will happen to it over the winter.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:10 am 
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I always drain the tank as low as I can get it and still get back to the ramp and have a bunch of stabilizer dumped in. In the spring, I fill the tank up to mix in some fresh gas.

This also gives me the excuse to go out one last time, because I NEED to get rid of the gas :D

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:54 am 
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Put your stablizer in then fill up and take it out to mix the stablizer and to get it in the carbs. Don't empty it! All rubber needs to stay wet, sending unit seal, fuel pump seals, etc......

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:49 am 
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Over the past 8 seasons I've stored my boat with anywhere from a 1/4 to 3/4 of a tank, never drained it and always used stabil, never had a problem with start up in the spring. There is no need to pump out the gas unless you have reason to believe that it's contaminated with water (I pull the water separating fuel filter and dump out the gas in a glass jar. Then let it sit and see if you have a layer of water on the bottom). If so then that might be worth doing, but so far I have never seen water in the filter....

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:40 am 
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Im with the "leave it empty" crowd. Running stabil through the system is much more important IMO. I have stored this way for 12 years now, and never had a startup problem in the spring. Less weight to tow to storage, and less weight sitting in the boat over the winter.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:11 pm 
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Not a dealer or advertiser or selling anything, but I use the Marine formulation of Sta-bil myself. Here are some good snippets from their website:

Q: How does MARINE Formula STA-BIL® Ethanol Treatment and Performance Improver work, and how is it different from Regular STA-BIL?
A:
MARINE Formula STA-BIL Ethanol Treatment is a new, enhanced formula of STA-BIL, America's top selling fuel stabilizer, that was designed to fight many of the unique problems related to ethanol in gasoline in the moisture-laden marine environment, and fights those problems in three ways:

1.Fights Fuel System Deposits – Ethanol in gasoline acts as a solvent on the accumulated deposits in marine fuel tanks, fuel lines, carburetors, injectors. These loosened deposits can cause engine performance problems, including hard starting, rough running and stalling. MARINE Formula STA-BIL cleans-up power-robbing deposits from carburetors, fuel injectors and intake valves to improve engine performance. MARINE Formula STA-BIL contains more than FOUR TIMES the fuel system cleaner in Regular STA-BIL – it is a Complete Fuel System Cleaner.
2.Fights Fuel System Corrosion – Ethanol in gasoline attracts water from the moist marine air. Since virtually all marine fuel systems manufactured through 2007 vent to the air, the ethanol continually attracts water – which can cause corrosion damage to marine fuel tanks, fuel lines, carburetors and injectors. MARINE Formula STA-BIL contains DOUBLE the corrosion preventer in Regular STA-BIL, to fight the unique problems of ethanol in gasoline in the marine environment, including marine fuel tanks which vent to the marine air.
3.Fights Fuel Degradation – Pumped gasoline starts to degrade immediately. MARINE Formula STA-BIL keeps fuel fresh for up to 12 months in marine gas tanks. Just like Regular STA-BIL, adding MARINE Formula STA-BIL Keeps Fuel Fresh , and eliminates the need to drain fuel prior to storage.


Q: Why is using MARINE Formula STA-BIL® Ethanol Treatment a better way to store fuel than draining it from the fuel tank and fuel system?
A: MARINE Formula STA-BIL should be used to store fuel in tanks, rather than draining fuel for several reasons. First, it is nearly impossible to get all of the fuel out of the fuel tank and fuel system simply by draining. To remove all of the fuel, the fuel lines and all of the fuel system components must be blown out or enough fuel will remain to cause gun and varnish to form. It is usually difficult to dispose of the drained fuel in an environmentally correct manner. Second, draining fuel exposes the bare metal in the tank and the fuel system to air and moisture that causes corrosion. Third, gaskets and seals may dry out or crack, leading to leaks when the tank and fuel system is refilled. The best solution is to fill the tank 95% full with fresh fuel and to immediately treat the fresh fuel with STA-BIL.
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Q: How long will MARINE Formula STA-BIL® Ethanol Treatment keep fuel fresh?
A: MARINE Formula STA-BIL keeps fuel fresh for up to 12 months in marine gas tanks and gas cans. Adding STA-BIL prevents the formation of gum and varnish that can cause engine performance problems including hard starting, rough running and stalling.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:16 pm 
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I do like chris, rob and some others. I typically try to get the tank below a half on the last trip out. I use sta-bil on every fill up and part of my dealers winterization includes adding fuel stablizer, so I'm covered there. I like the idea of protecting what's in there, but being able to add many gallons of fresh fuel to it the next spring.

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