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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:49 pm 
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Old Fart wrote:
My first summer I did about 55 hours on mineral oil


BTW, is that a typo? Mineral oil?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:31 pm 
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I think some people say mineral oil when they mean dino (conventional non synthetic) oil.
The Chevy engines in most I/Os and inboards are over head valve designs that are not really meant for constant high rpm use in stock form. Yes they can be modified to live at high rpms (similar engines have been used in NASCAR for years, living at close to 8000 rpm) but it takes racing components to achieve that.
Two cycle outboards can run at close to max rpms because there is essentially no valvetrain.
Four cycle outboards can do the same thing because their twin over head cam designs are built for it.
Chevy overhead valve engines were designed to be relatively inexpensive to produce (compare the cost of re-powering one of these vs an outboard, it's much less), produce good torque at moderate revs, but constant high rpm use was not part of their design.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:31 pm 
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^ what he said. The V6/V8 in your boat is using 80's car technology engines. Go buy a 1985 Chevy pickup truck with a 5.0 V8 and drive it around town EVERYWHERE at 4000rpms and see how long it lasts. That's the same engine you have in your boat.

Why boats don't have DOHC engines blows my mind away. A modern 150hp DOHC inline 4 would last FOREVERRRRR in a boat. A ford modular 4.6 DOHC V8 would last 20 years @ 4000 rpms with 300hp and get much better GPH.

If my engine ever blows up (3.0 VP), you bet your behind that I'll make the adapter plate and bolt in a Honda F20C engine out of a S2000. Half the price of the crappy chevy 3.0 and nearly double the HP and will run for a lifetime @ 6000rpms.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:31 pm 
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A 2007 will not let you run above redline. Once it hits the limiter you are done. Your boat will run just fine at WOT, which is 4400 to 4600 rpms on your engine. I am not saying run it that way for hours on end but running it like that is not killing it. Facts are that most boat engines blow up at mid range and its usually due to overheating, running lean, running out of oil or something like that...not being "worn out" from running at WOT.

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