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 Post subject: Re: Hull Design/Engine ?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:47 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Hull Design/Engine ?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:43 pm 
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Location: West Palm Beach, FL
LouC wrote:
ric I can't agree really....
For one, if the stats were still there on the FW site you could see...the newer boats are NOT lighter.
Point one, my '88 200 is a 20'9" boat, they said it weighed 2560
The current 200 is shorter, a 19'8" boat and it weighs about 3050. Like close to 400 lbs more.


Yes, I have watched newer years weight be consistantly heavier than the older ones. With the H240, my 2000 was 3860 lbs, or just over 4000 lbs for the biggest engine. The newest H240s are 400-500 lbs heavier.

LouC wrote:
...Then there's deadrise. Yes the deadrise at the transom is not the only factor, ride also depends on the angle at the bow and how the deadrise spreads out along the hull. But if you look at most all boats designed for off shore use, they have steep deadrise angles, like 20* or more at the transom. My '88 has a steeper deadrise than all the newer ones, at 21* a true deep V design and it rides like that. If you look at it from the side out of the water, you can see how deep the V is from the bow to stern, even compared to my neighbor's Key West of the same size, the V of my FW is much more pronounced. The depth of the hull from the keel to the chine is noticeably more. Deep V boats do take more power to push through the water than shallower V boats and they tend to rock more at rest. Plus, I can see how they might take more 'glass to make that shape than a flatter shape.


I am not going to attempt to answer the OP's whole question, but just add this information to help solve the puzzle. As mentioned above, the FW boats of 12 years ago were lighter than they are now. My 2000 H240 had a 20deg deadrise, and I think it has a great ride. It corners very flat compared to other boats I have had (listed in my signature)...a very noticable attribute. It can take very sharp corners as long as engine is trimmed down first...corners hard enough to make you slide across the bench seat. Tracking at no-wake speed is the straighest I have had, but not perfectly straight. Stability while adrift is excellent. Ride on the ocean is as good as you would expect from any 24' boat designed for offshore use, even though you might consider FW to be more of a lake boat company.

Here is a 1999 spec sheet for 240 Horizon from the old website:
http://www.rpengr.com/1999_240%20Horizon(p28-33).pdf

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