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Hey all, I have been really enjoying our 358 It has been running great and I am ready for the 20 hour service. Anyone know what this should typically cost? OK just a few issues I have noted.

Cockpit cover - I took it out and tried it on for size. Fits great all the snaps line up however I have the same issue with the aft camper supports. No cut out in cover. I guess Fourwinns assumes you will take down the top if you are using the cockpit cover. I am having local canvas guy cut an openning for me that I traced out on the canvas.

Walk thru windshield - When stepping thru the walkthru there is a loud Snap or cracking sound. It does not creak, just a loud single snap.

Water dripping from speaker in arch- When it eains real hard I get dripping from the speaker over the helm in the arch.

Galvanic Isolaters - I have the same problem we are all having. dim light only when the panel lights are on.

Sirius Weather - Can not get the Sirius Weather on the C80 display. There is no option in the set up menu to set it up however when you turn on the C80 display you get a Sirius Weather disclaimer you have to opt thru.

Rain Leaks - When it rains real hard water streams in thru the bottom of the walkthru windshield panel. Actually looks like it is running thru the frame and out the bottom. it streams inside and runs back on both sides in the channel that is inside the widshield and then out thru a drain under the side windows. This isn't so bad since it drains out. The big concern I have is a stream of water that flows thru the chanel that the side curtains are slid into. The water streams out the bottom and sprays into the cockpit right into the cup holders. It also is running into the hinge for the hinged arch and running under the area wher the arch meets the gunnel. The arch has a gasket on the outside edge but nothing on the inside. There is a hole in the gunnel where the wiring for the arch runs thru and this does not have any gasket at all. You can be assured that water is running into this hole and who knows where from there. My fear is it hits wire connections or gets into the hull.

Other than this She is running great. I am really impressed with the power. I have the 5.7 volvo inboards and with 12 adults on board full water and 3/4 fuel she gets right out of the hole and planes off at about 3800 RPM with a little help from the trim tabs.

Anyway I was due to take back up to Redbank for the service this morning however we are totally fogged in. I'll have to wait for next monday because I will travelling all week for business.

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2008.Fourwinns V358
1999 SeaRay340 Sundancer
1989 SeaRay 260 Cuddy

I'm thinking that some of the electrical gremlins, I've been having may be related to moisture.

We arrived at the boat Wednesday evening, everything was wet inside the cockpit from a big thunderstorm. The gremlins seemed to be there until things dryed out over then next few days. By Sunday everything worked perfect. How many of you have these issues:

Blue LED curtousy lamps don't shut all the way off, one position is full brightness but the other position is still dimly lit.

The horn sometimes works fine and other times just clicks. If you keep pushing the circuit breaker will pop.

Tach sometimes reads wrong, sometime works great.

First course of business is stoping the leaks, so I took down the canvas top and sprayed with 303 sealant. That's done so now I need to wait for rain and see if it helped.

Next I thinking about pulling the GPS out to access the back of all the switches. I'm think that some wire drying spray might seal things up a bit. I'll probably wait until after the 20 hour service. I'll tell the dealer and see if they have any ideas.

I've found that I'm better off fixing some stuff myself. Sometimes the fix can cause more trouble than the problem.

Rberm,

I do get a crack sound sometimes when leaving the walkthrough usually when I leave the last step. But it seems to be stoping. The boat does creak in several spots. The engine hatch and the saloon sole near the front berth seem to be nosiy. There are obviously seams in those locations.

My rain leaks are described in an earlier post. I have not noticed leaks in the walkthru panel, or in the arch speakers. My old boat leaked inside the arch, it turned out to be sloppy caulking around the light base on the top of the arch.

I do have water in those corner cup holder that I could not explain, so thanks now I know where to look. How does the water get in that channel? I don't have the hinged arch so that isn't a concern for me, but the water around there has to go some where. I'm guessing that ends up in the bilge on top of the starboard fuel tank.

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2008 V358 Two-tone Blue V/P Dual Prop 320 HP
Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

Ok, we get the creek noise when stepping on the windshield pass through on the top step, same level as the dashboard. I have reported on here about the blue LED lights having a los setting that can´t shut off as well. That issue has gone away though. We creek on the engine hatch floor near the cockpit entertainment area but that is intermittent. Seams like all new 358 owners are having similar issues. Hope FW reads this so they can work on their QC issues.

The blinds do look great now that they are finally up. Pics to follow soon!

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2008 Four Winns V358 (T 6.2L Merc Bravo III's with DTS and SeaCore)
2006 Sea Ray 340DA
2006 Sea Ray 320DA
2005 Maxum 3100 SE

Hey Gang - I'm in the middle of a five hundred mile, two-week cruising adventure and happy to report all is going great! A few of the new owners have commented that the depth sounder on their E80's drop out when underway. I am seeing this regularly at cruising speed. FW is considering a theory that the bow thruster tunnel is creating a bubble situation they haven't dealt with before (bubbles under the transducer blocking a reading). Do those of you who have had depth sounder issues have bow thrusters?

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Previously:
2008 V358/Volvo 5.7 GXi Inboards

No thruster here, but my depth sounder stays working reliably up to about 23mph. Then it gets intermittent up to about 26mph before being unable to read at all. It's never been enough of a problem to do anything about it. If I'm in an area with unknown depths then I sure as hell shouldn't be flying along. Here on the Bay it's not been an issue, I could imagine other areas might be more concerned.

Oh, and if you're in rough seas forget about reliable depth readings. Agitated water kills being able to get reliable soundings. This I tried to tell a buddy of mine aboard during a really nasty storm 2 years ago. I finally had to yell at him that if we were really in TWO FEET OF WATER we'd be seeing WAVE,DIRT,WAVE,DIRT and we'd have a lot more trouble on our hands. Don't know if it was that or sheer terror that got him to STFU, thankfully.

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-Bill Kearney, 2005 348 Vista

I hope everyone is having a good summer and I trust this thread has been quiet as people are enjoying their boats with few problems!

I'm curious if anyone regularly has water in the bilge below the compartment for the shower/galley sink pump and any idea as to where that water could be coming from. My mechanic said it was not a problem but couldn't identify the source. To be clear, I'm talking about the aft compartment in this shot:

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Previously:
2008 V358/Volvo 5.7 GXi Inboards

Possibly condensation from the A/C? I have water there too - all the time...

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2004 Sea Ray 420DB
Formerly: 2005 348 Vista

Had this one. Worked fine when the battery charger was on. Clicked when on battery or even alternators.

Ran a new ground to the horn circuit. Problem solved. It seems they undersized the wires or used poor connectors.

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2004 Sea Ray 420DB
Formerly: 2005 348 Vista

I'd say either AC Condensate or Shower Drain. I don't know what the schematic shows, but either of those, should drain into a sump box and should be pumped overboard. There shouldn't be water in there.

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Brett DiMichele

The A/C condensation, galley sink and shower drain all go into the sump box in that compartment and pump overboard. The lines and box are not leaking so the water is coming from elsewhere.

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Previously:
2008 V358/Volvo 5.7 GXi Inboards

The sump box should have hoses that come in from the galley sink, the shower floor drains and the AC condenser tray. The head sink goes directly overboard and does not go through the shower sump (at least not on my 348). There generally "should not" be any water getting into the forward bilge. If it is then it's leaking from somewhere. The forward bilge will drain to the mid bilge and get pumped out. The mid bilge is the space between that shower sump area and the mid cabin, where the seacocks for the genset and the AC are located. Check to see if that area is getting wet. The forward bilge doesn't drain as well as I'd like. It tends to leave about 3/4" of water there before ever being high enough to reach the drain back to the mid bilge.

One thing to check, the seal around the sump box. I find if you run soapy water from the galley sink down the drain it can back up enough in the sump box to leak out through where the wires come into the box. You can test this easily enough on your own. Suds up some dish soap in the sink, while it's plugged. Get about half a sinkful of water and a LOT of suds and then drain it. Then dump a bit of soap directly into the galley sink drain. Now, plug the sink and fill it with water. Once it's full, pop the drain and also turn on the tap. This should result in the sump getting overfilled. If the seal is tight then no water should leak and the pump inside the box will quickly catch up. If it isn't sealed well then you'll see bubbles leaking out. Get some lifecaulk and seal it up. Generally you want to use a CAULK, not a sealant like 5200. The box is something you need to be able to get into in order to clean it, 5200 would make for a problem getting back into it.

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-Bill Kearney, 2005 348 Vista

To join the poll ... yes, we have intermittent problems with the depth sounder as most have described. At cruising speeds it is reading blank more often than not. At low speeds it works reliably. And yes we do have a bow thruster.

Sierra - I peek periodically at that mid sump area and have never seen water in it. Others of course will have a better feel for where its coming from.

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"Foursome Fun" 2008 V358/Volvo 5.7 GXi Inboards
Lake Erie - Ohio

Previous Boat:
2003 Sea Ray 280 Sundancer

We just had an issue with our shower sump. Here is what we found: The sump had lots of food debris n it and the pump was some what clogged. We emptied and cleaned the sump box and pump area and found that water was not pumping overboard that well. We wound up replacing the back-flow assembly and no more problems. If this is either torn or missing, water will back flow when the float valve stops but there is still water in the hose. Not sure if this is your case or not.............!

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2008 Four Winns V358 (T 6.2L Merc Bravo III's with DTS and SeaCore)
2006 Sea Ray 340DA
2006 Sea Ray 320DA
2005 Maxum 3100 SE

OK - so as with anything 'new' we buy in life, it is hard not to think about "how will they change it next year" no matter how much you like what you're getting. Well guess what I found floating around on the net? Some shots of an '09 V358. Initial reaction? I'm glad I got an '08 if the cabinetry and cockpit seating colors are not options . More thoughts in a moment, but first, the pix:






Some observations:

-Obviously, that pale blue is a new color
-That transom seat sure would be nice but never in lieu of the transom locker
-In addition to changing the cockpit seating to a cream color the cockpit countertops are a light color (not as classy as the black IMHO)
-It looks like the gauges are slightly different. Anyone know what those two units are by the Fireboy on the left side of the helm?
-The door to the salon appears to be smoked - probably a smart move
-While I get that the light maple wood in the cabin can make it feel lighter and perhaps more spacious, I personally think it is not as classy as the dark wood.
-Stainless panel on the fridge
-Although we can't see it, I'm assuming they mounted the TV on the bulkhead as they planned to do as the TV that used to be high in the galley is not there
-They eliminated the storage directly behind the settee (and changed the settee itself). It appears that they did this to move the settee further to port and create a bit more space in the cabin - I would miss that storage space. The stairs don't appear to encroach on the cabin quite as much

Admittedly, I like having "the latest" and "the newest" - a bad habit in boating. Based on these shots it's nice to have no regrets (I fortunately felt the same way when Sea Ray introduced the 350DA - nice boat... not for me).

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Previously:
2008 V358/Volvo 5.7 GXi Inboards

The cabinets don't match, that makes no sense... Sea foam green belongs on fishing boats... The stainless front on the fridge is something you can DIY in 10 minutes. I do like the light color beige cockpit upholstry, very Doral-esque, but needs dark tan contast trim to really exude class.

I like the light colored cabinets, and if they matched that'd be great...

I like the black/copper much better than just about any combination I've ever seen..

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Brett DiMichele